the absurdity of the US system is that if the rejection rate is so high, it should be mandatory (and non-partisan priority) to fix the systematic issues that lead to rejection. in 2024 these weren't so insurmountable issues.How does a party really steal an election? Same as they did during Jim Crow. They can’t use a poll tax or a bogus written test anymore. So they found other ways.
TRUMP LOST. Vote Suppression Won.
Here are the numbers from investigative reporter Greg Palast...hartmannreport.com
Think of all the states where they purged the voter rolls in traditionally Democratic-leaning areas, but INSISTED that you’ll be fine because you can just get a provisional ballot.
Some “big picture” numbers:
Add the broken electoral college to this mix, and any Democrat would need to win by a lot more than 1-2% to actually win.
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They intentionally made these issues worse. Voter ID, restrictions on ballots, technicalities to easily disqualify ballots, purging voter rolls, bogus citizen challenges to registrations, and more are all meant to suppress the vote. It would be really easy to fix all these problems. However, the GOP sees them as features instead of bugs. Voting by certain people is what they want to prevent. And they are doing a pretty decent job at it,
Let’s not forget a recent SCOTUS ruling either. Voting rights challenges can no longer be brough by voters; they can only be brought by the DOJ. How many challenges to racist gerrymandering and other discriminatory practices do you believe the Trump DOJ will bring to court?
Trump's new Justice Department leadership orders a freeze on civil rights cases
The new Justice Department leadership has put a freeze on civil rights litigation, and suggested it may reconsider police reform agreements negotiated by the Biden administration.
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edit: the applicable meme
Also, the po-po reform protest voters, can join the party with the pro-palestine-protest voters.
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Compared to the other picks, Rubio is the most reasonable cabinet member. Well…
Secretary of State Marco Rubio orders halt to almost all U.S. foreign aid
The directive follows President Donald Trump’s executive order Monday pausing new obligations and disbursements of foreign aid pending review.
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He is stopping all foreign aid immediately… although there were 2 exceptions:
We already know why Israel is exempt, but in case you forgot why Egypt might be getting special treatment…
Democrats Finally Ask Trump the $10 Million Question on Egypt
House Oversight Democrats are pressing Donald Trump on that alleged massive campaign donation from Egypt.
newrepublic.com
One thing that keeps me thinking. The new, ""definition"" of binary sex, does more to declare zygotic personhood than defining sex. Ergo it is a very very very clear indicator that they are planning on a national abortion ban. Which takes me to all the lying on record. When you elect blatant liars, you give approval to not adhering to the campaign promises.
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Trump said he wouldn’t get involved in foreign wars?
Sure, no civilians were hurt… There’s no way that is true, but Trump lies and good luck checking those details from Somalia.
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Speaking of cruelty... Philadelphia Inquirer reports incidents of impersonation of ICE agents in Pennsylvania. Yeah, this was gonna happen, even if impersonating an ICE agent is a federal crime. Ignorance, incompetence AND cruelty.
One incident was about some Temple University students harassing a bakery. They've been suspended and one of them was arrested.
Another recurring incident is about someone who's been driving around Chester County agricultural regions in a vehicle with fake ICE stickers, purporting to be from "ICE Volunteer Corps," a nonexistent entity.
Of course there have also long been scams where people impersonating ICE have offered to "help" undocumented workers get green cards or stays of their deportation for like $10k a pop.
The LA Times has reported on a number of such ripoffs. The really awful thing there is that refugees officially released under protection in the USA --pending adjudication of their asylum claim or during a TPS (a specific group's temporary protection status grant)-- can end up trying to get good paperwork sooner but instead get caught up in a scam that reveals undocumented employment, giving ICE a reason to deport them as criminals, which makes them ineligible to re-enter the USA and may endanger their lives when they are returned to country of origin.
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This guy cuts to the chase on how we got to the point of turning Gitmo into a concentration camp, threatening Panama and Greenland, planning to nuke and pave Gaza, and letting a South African weirdo steal everybody’s social security checks.
Political eggsellence.
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Is this for real?
Seriously?
Ms Harris accepted defeat gracefully, and did not attempt to mount a coup d'état following her defeat.
Nowhere in her platform did she state that she would withdraw the US from the WHO, abolish USAID (a force for good and a source of soft power), threaten Panama, Mexico, Canada, Denmark and Greenland, gut government departments, threaten to abolish the (federal) Department of Education, witlessly (and outrageously) surrender the details of federal government personnel and payroll to a bunch of unelected, unaccountable, unqualified, affluent young white men for whom women, people of colour and the poor are all viewed with corrosive contempt.....
....and, as for Gaza....
well, on the subject of Gaza, I don't recall Ms Harris suggesting that the area be "ethnically cleansed" of its inhabitants for whom exile and expulsion are deemed acceptable courses of action in the eyes of the current appalling and ethics-free administration.
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These posts have been pretty consistent, unfortunately. I've expressed my opinion about this pretty early on, way before the election. I don't see how the "single-issue gaza voters" demonstrate politically meaningful leverage and without leverage, nobody will take your cohort seriously. NOBODY.
So on one hand, it wasn't only about third party voting since a significant chunk went straight to vote for trump (see below). Punishing the candidate on whom you still have some leverage on by voting for the candidate who has a track record of being worse for your cause and you have ZERO influence on isn't how you demonstrate or maintain leverage. So we now have a movement with a track record of going great lengths to demoralize Democratic voters, and these effort go on way past the election. In the meantime they offer NOTHING nominal on how to handle the trump admin, only doubling down on fucking stupid. I still have yet to learn how this will enhance the empathy for the Palestinian cause.
Trump breaks GOP losing streak in nation's largest majority-Arab city with a pivotal final week
Donald Trump became the first Republican presidential candidate since 2000 to win the majority-Arab city of Dearborn, Michigan.
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Ohh and what we are getting at this very moment is "the better handling of the Middle East" people considered:
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The price range is $4.79-5.79/dozen for large at the local Kroger here in Central Virginia. If you shop super early. Got up super late and prepared a list for Sunday am shopping and saw a notice of 2 carton limit for all eggs. Most are out of stock except for large quantities: 30 or 60 ct. Lots of people shop biweekly or monthly, so it's not unheard of seeing some buying 60-120 eggs at a time.
I recall a special for ~$3.29/dozen pre-election. Even cheaper for members under certain plans.
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It is beyond ridiculous for anybody to drag Harris at this point.
Are those doing so looking to excuse their part in re-electing Trump?
Maybe for some, it’s a bonus that they get to disparage a woman of color.
Either way, this is the find out phase. One could blame the woman they refused to vote for. Or they could engage in some self-reflection.
In the end, we are all stuck now, whether we acted wisely or foolishly. I just hope that those who acted foolishly will learn something from this and not make the same mistake again… if there IS another election.
Are those doing so looking to excuse their part in re-electing Trump?
Maybe for some, it’s a bonus that they get to disparage a woman of color.
Either way, this is the find out phase. One could blame the woman they refused to vote for. Or they could engage in some self-reflection.
In the end, we are all stuck now, whether we acted wisely or foolishly. I just hope that those who acted foolishly will learn something from this and not make the same mistake again… if there IS another election.
Yup, we have trump here being absolutely lawless, yet Harris' still catching flack for not being flawless. Madness.
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If you were wondering… was it really the expensive eggs that led people to vote for Trump? If so, with eggs even more expensive, people must be unhappy with him, right? …. RIGHT?
www.pewresearch.org
People voted FOR the racism; basically everything he’s done so far (that made the news) was about punishing minorities. We are well and truly f-ed as a nation if half the country thinks he is doing a good job. Will 10% unemployment be enough for people to sour on this bigot? 15%? Who knows. But just know that half of America think this is what doing a “good job” looks like!
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1. Trump’s second term: Early ratings and expectations
Americans are deeply divided over Trump’s plans and how he is handling his job as president in the early weeks of his return to office.
www.pewresearch.org
People voted FOR the racism; basically everything he’s done so far (that made the news) was about punishing minorities. We are well and truly f-ed as a nation if half the country thinks he is doing a good job. Will 10% unemployment be enough for people to sour on this bigot? 15%? Who knows. But just know that half of America think this is what doing a “good job” looks like!
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we are literally 3 weeks in. It's entirely meaningless. Remember when people angrily telling us how they are leaving the GOP after Jan 6. Well 4 years later they went and voted the same way. I.e. you can have a literal failed coup d'état in the first week of presidency and it will have zero consequence for the election outcomesIf you were wondering… was it really the expensive eggs that led people to vote for Trump? If so, with eggs even more expensive, people must be unhappy with him, right? …. RIGHT?
1. Trump’s second term: Early ratings and expectations
Americans are deeply divided over Trump’s plans and how he is handling his job as president in the early weeks of his return to office.
People voted FOR the racism; basically everything he’s done so far (that made the news) was about punishing minorities. We are well and truly f-ed as a nation if half the country thinks he is doing a good job. Will 10% unemployment be enough for people to sour on this bigot? 15%? Who knows. But just know that half of America think this is what doing a “good job” looks like!
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