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2024 US Election thread

I rarely weigh in on this topic, because I never feel like adequately understand all the moving parts. What I do understand is a need to blame someone or something for any ill or failings that may fall one's way.

I've been seeing quite a few videos recently about Dearborn and their buyer's remorse. I've also seen the strange pivot that drags PoC into the topic & always seems to blame Harris specifically but not ( ? ) dem party. Which has to led to videos from the Black community going "Don't come at me, I voted in OURS / YOURS best interests, even if you didn't". There's been similar calls from the Latino community that the Black community needs to unite with them for all of our sakes. Why? Because they ALSO voted the guy who said he was going to deport anything Brown & has a history with bans involving Muslims. That's who EVERYONE needs to rally against... NOW?! Which at this point I personally have to ask is this like an Evangelical thing? Where SOME Arab & Latino communities have no issue with what 45 promised he would do to others, because he claimed he wouldn't do it to them? IF that is the case...

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Did they really mean to throw everyone else under the bus, hoping they would get a seat on that same bus?

A bus that the man they voted for & his friends have made perfectly clear is 'Whites Only'?

A bus driven by a guy that's commonly known as pathological liar, who will anything ( eggs anyone? Wars ending day 1? ) to get his way. They believed that guy? Over ANYONE else? Make it make sense.

Don't get me wrong. I've always said vote in your best interests, that's why it's your vote. BUT that vote is very very important. You don't throw it away on a protest vote. Yes, it's throwing it away. We have a political system that was literally made with "Voting for Dummies" in mind. We have a 2 party system that for better or worse lays out stuff in literal binary. There is no false binary because there are shades in whatever argument you make. Our system is so polarized that if one party offers you something, the other specifically doesn't want you to have it. If a subject isn't being directly addressed by a party, you can bet the other party isn't addressing it either but they want it made worse.

Didn't like how Biden handled Gaza? Understandable. He didn't handle it. But in anyone's heart of hearts, did they really think 45 was going to be better? The guy bibi was cheering to win, anyone thought would be better for Gaza? Really?

That voting for Jill Stein was going to soothe over anything besides one's "rationale". Did anyone think that by voting NOW for Stein, was going to make the dems pay attention to them in the future, but not think about Gaza's present?

We've done this sad comedy bit many times before. Groups thinking that the phrase involving leopards eating faces ( there's a literally a Youtube channel about an animated leopard highlighting remorseful 45 voters ) didn't become a thing until recently. It's a phrase about YOU!! People thinking that somehow a protest votes absolves them from whatever fallout occurs from who actually wins. No, it doesn't. It means you helped whoever won, ..win. That is on you! Even worse unlike the past, the person you helped get in is going to ran fallout on everyone, including those protest voters and no amount bullshit rationalization is getting you around that.

Congratulations. Whoever protest vote, stroke your own ego. I don't think the people in Gaza, Uganda, Ukraine & probably more give a crap about how you're feeling about yourself. They may have an issue with how you voted or didn't vote though.
 
I passed up buying eggs today when I saw the price. But at least they had plenty at the store where I went if I did need them. I guess that isn’t true in many places…



Is America great again yet?
 
I rarely weigh in on this topic, because I never feel like adequately understand all the moving parts. What I do understand is a need to blame someone or something for any ill or failings that may fall one's way.

I've been seeing quite a few videos recently about Dearborn and their buyer's remorse. I've also seen the strange pivot that drags PoC into the topic & always seems to blame Harris specifically but not ( ? ) dem party. Which has to led to videos from the Black community going "Don't come at me, I voted in OURS / YOURS best interests, even if you didn't". There's been similar calls from the Latino community that the Black community needs to unite with them for all of our sakes. Why? Because they ALSO voted the guy who said he was going to deport anything Brown & has a history with bans involving Muslims. That's who EVERYONE needs to rally against... NOW?! Which at this point I personally have to ask is this like an Evangelical thing? Where SOME Arab & Latino communities have no issue with what 45 promised he would do to others, because he claimed he wouldn't do it to them? IF that is the case...
Honestly, I find it one of the most disturbing thing that Black men were blamed for trump's victory when 3 in 4 of us voted against trump, and we were the only group of men where trump did not win.
 
I passed up buying eggs today when I saw the price. But at least they had plenty at the store where I went if I did need them. I guess that isn’t true in many places…



Is America great again yet?

The thought of bickering about eggs reminded me of this line from Cannibal Ox:
"you've got to let go of my constructed Lego egg-o-waffle halo"
 
Overall, 47% of U.S. adults approve of how Trump is handling his job as president

I was tuned in to CNN in the runup to the game and saw them reporting this statistic, and it just felt too cruel to be real.

So America is seriously that stupid? Behold, the result of decades of Fox News propaganda, right wing crackpot websites & social media*, home schooling, and just plain laziness regarding being an informed voter, all in the service of a corrupt, racist and, yes, Godless conservative party.

* If it’s right wing, shouldn’t it be called antisocial media?

…Is America great again yet?

I saw a pithy (and unfortunately misspelled) meme yesterday:

Are we great yet?
‘Cause I just feel embarrassed.
 
One of the best posts I’ve ever seen.


My fave from the day: WOKE: Whatever Offends Klansmen Easily

Funnily I got into a big fight with an ex classmate of mine from high school because he expressed him being upset about wokeness (doesn't even know what it is). Ironically, the guy is dyslexic and received some accommodations for it during times when it was unusual. Those accommodations were probable the wokest thing he'd ever encountered in his life.
 
I passed up buying eggs today when I saw the price. But at least they had plenty at the store where I went if I did need them. I guess that isn’t true in many places…



Is America great again yet?

Same thing around. Per my wife, there were like two boxes of eggs at Safeway yesterday. We got to indulge in our exuberant lifestyle with an egg feast yesterday. Thanks JD.
 
Same thing around. Per my wife, there were like two boxes of eggs at Safeway yesterday. We got to indulge in our exuberant lifestyle with an egg feast yesterday. Thanks JD.
In a Seattle Safeway at end January you could get an 18-ct carton of eggs for "only" 13.49 at store members' price (so $9 per dozen), guaranteed price through April, but of course there weren't any on the shelf anyway. I'm snowed in right now so blissfully unaware of local prices for eggs from the upstate NY markets, and meanwhile substituting shelf-stable tofu...


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Jeepers, I thought we had inflation problems but $13.49 for 18 eggs! Across the pond here, eggs (free range) are around £3 - 4 a dozen, if you're a bit naughty and don't buy free range (caged) you can get 30 cheapo ones for £4 from ASDA.

The eggchange rate (sorry!) must be pretty good and well in our favour - perhaps we should offer to pay any incoming tariffs in eggs or chickens...
 
Alabama residents are already finding out what they get for voting 45.


But hundreds of Alabama residents are receiving a $100 surcharge on their energy bills as a direct result of Trump's actions in the White House. About 250 customers of Huntsville Utilities, the public utility company in Huntsville, Alabama, received a letter informing them that their account "has been debited $100." The surcharge occurred because one of Trump's executive orders froze a grant that assists low-income residents with their energy bills.
 
Wait until the residents of Alabama find out how things go without Medicaid.
Well, yes.

However, my sense is that however much they suffer as a result of their electoral choices, as long as those whom they regard as their enemies (not, note, opponents), suffer even more than they do, they will rest horribly content, rather than admit that they got it (very) wrong by voting for that malevolent narcissist (and the truly vile broligarchy that enables him, as they fatten themselves on the ill-gotten gains that their proximity to power has allowed them to feed upon).
 
Another “woke” story. If it seems too long, just read the parts highlighted in blue.

tl;dr version: This guy pranked his ultra-conservative cousin by convincing him that beans in chili are a liberal vegetarian plot. Cousin reacts badly and hilarity ensues.

 
Another “woke” story. If it seems too long, just read the parts highlighted in blue.

tl;dr version: This guy pranked his ultra-conservative cousin by convincing him that beans in chili are a liberal vegetarian plot. Cousin reacts badly and hilarity ensues.


I read the whole thing and loved it. Scary though, ain't it?

It makes sense that we become more gullible in a "post-factual" era. I didn't really think it would happen so fast and have such breadth and depth in our lives though. Sad that it means we also lose things like a sense of irony or humor.
 
Another “woke” story. If it seems too long, just read the parts highlighted in blue.

tl;dr version: This guy pranked his ultra-conservative cousin by convincing him that beans in chili are a liberal vegetarian plot. Cousin reacts badly and hilarity ensues.

I'd be very cautious about anything related to Political flair, Talking points memo, Huffpost, Newsweek, Dailybeast, at this point, they specialize on clickbait designed to be boosted by reddit, especially r/AITA(H), which is now is 95% AI slop at this point. I stopped clicking any of those links let it be Lemmy.World or anywhere else.
 
Not a fan of pranks, to be honest.

More to the point, I don't care how supposedly "funny" they are, or the political persuasions (or perspectives) of those who pull them.
 
I don’t get it…

Venezuelans backed Trump. Now some worry he’ll deport them

Did these people not see the rallies?

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A lot of countries other than the USA have plenty of white/black racism too. What many “white” people from those countries don’t realize is that they are on the other side of that divide when they’re in the USA. They were warned.
 
Some people thought “America First” applied to them…


"I'm very concerned about the security of our farms," 44-year-old Elisa Lane, who owns and runs a farm producing fruit and cut flowers in the US state of Maryland, told AFP on Monday.
"We are American farmers, and so we are the people that when we hear 'America first'..., that message is supposed to be for us," Lane said, referring to Trump's nationalist, right-wing slogan."We're the ones that are supposed to be elevated and cared for," she added. "And this is in direct conflict with that ideology."

Did they think they were the “real” Americans? That they should be “elevated and cared for?” It’s a bit hard for me to muster much sympathy for people that expected their leader to elevate them and deport others.
 
Some people thought “America First” applied to them…





Did they think they were the “real” Americans? That they should be “elevated and cared for?” It’s a bit hard for me to muster much sympathy for people that expected their leader to elevate them and deport others.
Sending thoughts and prayers for them to help processing the out-group experience. They'll learn nothing and revert the moment they'll feel like the in-group again.
 
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