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SouprMatt

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I thought this topic deserved its own thread, so here it is.

Proponents of crypto say it will democratize money, empower people, etc.

However, so far it has just been a way for scammers to steal billions from investors. And dump millions of tons of carbon into the atmosphere simultaneously. Outstanding.

FTX was the biggest scam to be exposed so far… until today.

Binance, the world’s biggest crypto exchange? Yeah, they appear to be scamming people too.

The Securities and Exchange Commission has accused Binance, the world’s largest cryptocurrency exchange, of mishandling customer funds as well as lying to regulators and investors about its operations in a sweeping case filed in federal court on Monday.

The Wall Street regulator said Binance had been mixing “billions of dollars” in customer funds and secretly sending them to a separate company called Merit Peak Limited, which is controlled by Binance’s founder, Changpeng Zhao.

Also, a good general link for the current state of crypto:

 
Incredible timing, just got a call from a fake-looking Italian number regarding my crypto account that had around 42000 SEK on it.

They really have stepped up their game. No thick Indian accent this time, and they asked for me by name. Using SEK was also a nice touch, matching the country code of the phone number, but I wonder if they forgot to account for exchange rates in their script. 42k in euro would have been more tempting to recover. Not quite sure exactly what their plan was as I didn’t have enough free time to toy with the scammer.

I do have some ancient fractions of a BTC in a wallet on an old HDD. Really should try to recover them one of these days, but selling them is a PITA.
 
And now Coinbase, another one of the biggest crypto exchanges, is being sued by the government.

A few hours after this [Binance] lawsuit, which is in itself an earthquake, the SEC is charging Coinbase, the most popular cryptocurrency exchange in the U.S., with operating illegally because it is "an unregistered national securities exchange, broker, and clearing agency."

In a complaint the SEC also charged Coinbase "for failing to register the offer and sale of its crypto asset staking-as-a-service program," according to a statement.

"You simply can’t ignore the rules because you don’t like them or because you’d prefer different ones: the consequences for the investing public are far too great,” said Gurbir S. Grewal, director of the SEC’s Division of Enforcement.

 
Do the crypto bros know anything other than grifting? Coinbase CEO asks people to buy an NFT to show they ‘stand with’ the company after it was sued by the SEC.

 
Rolling Stone has a great article on the history of oversight (or the lack thereof) when it comes to crypto. It’s by Molly White, creator of the web3 is going great site linked above.

 
Remind me again why people gave billions of dollars to a group of unknowns still in their 20s?


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You know who's really big on crypto? Yeah, the most recent former GOP nominee for Speaker of the House. Sascroll down past wohere it talks about his prospects before 6pm this evening LOL... for details on his interests (and interests of the bitcoin industry in him).

 
I've been implementing Ed25519 for my ssh keys for over five years.

Dove back into the guts of the matter this weekend, and (of course) I found myself with about 55 tabs running (FFx, natch), two txt editors open (nine docs distributed), two terminals running, Transmit (this one was the real bear (distributed-hosting using CPanel makes me barf, but it usually gets the job done)), and five other progs of varying capacities and function.

Original Thesis was to get SFTP-sync with my main website for re-construction.

AAPL tweaks p/o-OSS, so brewing new stuff isn't always the best option. Finally figured- it out, in the end.

Goal: Accomplished!

Second-Thesis became a deep-dive into crypto, cyphers, EdDSA, NIST, doing the ChaCha twenty times, et al.

Always ready for a tangent, this article kept me singularly-attentive for the duration:


Enjoy your Snug Day, People 🙂
 
It doesn’t sound like it was very difficult to scam people out of $110 million. The crypto exchange was set up so badly that it was child’s play for this crook (now convicted):


On Mango Markets, investors can "purchase and borrow cryptocurrencies and cryptocurrency-related financial products," including buying and selling "perpetual futures contracts."
"When an investor buys or sells a perpetual for a particular cryptocurrency, the investor is not buying or selling that cryptocurrency but is, instead, buying or selling exposure to future movements in the value of that cryptocurrency relative to another cryptocurrency," the DOJ explained.

Understanding this, Eisenberg opened separate accounts to either buy or sell perpetuals of a cryptocurrency called MNGO, then sold the perpetuals to himself while making a series of large MNGO purchases that drove up the cryptocurrency price. According to the SEC, Eisenberg "controlled, sold, and contemporaneously purchased purported perpetual futures contracts with respect to approximately 488 million MNGO tokens (out of approximately 500 million tokens in circulation)."

By purchasing so much of the otherwise "thinly traded" MNGO cryptocurrency, the SEC said, Eisenberg was able to artificially inflate the prices of both the cryptocurrency and the perpetuals, ultimately causing "the price of MNGO Perpetuals on Mango Markets to rise approximately 1300 percent in a period of approximately 20 minutes." The price of MNGO was artificially raised by more than 2,200 percent at one point, the SEC claimed.

Once the value of the perpetuals was basically maxed out, Eisenberg then borrowed and withdrew "approximately $110 million worth of various cryptocurrencies from Mango Markets, which came from deposits of other investors in the Mango Markets exchange," virtually wiping out the exchange while causing the price of MNGO perpetuals to "collapse."

"Eisenberg withdrew nearly all then-available funds from Mango Markets," the DOJ said. "When Eisenberg borrowed and withdrew this cryptocurrency, he had no intention of repaying the borrowed funds but rather intended to steal those funds."

Anybody still want to invest in crypto? 🤦‍♂️
 
It doesn’t sound like it was very difficult to scam people out of $110 million. The crypto exchange was set up so badly that it was child’s play for this crook (now convicted):






Anybody still want to invest in crypto? 🤦‍♂️

Hard pass. Interesting how it doesn't take long for crooks to start hammering on every "innovative product" the finance sector synthesizes from practically thin air to begin with, as long as gullible buyers (many of them invariably coming late to the plate) also figure they can make a fast buck off whatever it is.

Market manipulation efforts aren't uncommon, but with this guy, all that frenetic activity in a pretty thin market plus bragging on it via social media while exercising his tactics were big red flags, ones that even our ill-paid government regulators could hardly miss.

So yeah, uncovering fraud committed in MNGO at that level of stupidity should not make investors in other cryptocurrency feel complacent.

How all that sausage gets made is one thing, who minds the larders is another, who are the real or alleged investors/customers something else. And how much educated brilliance a rich crook can buy to successfully rig a crypto market is probably something we'll get a belated glimpse of now and then down the road. It's all going to be chasing after stuff that already left the barn, with most of it not in there for long anyway.

Ever open a petty cash box to find not even an IOU in there? Ever open the fridge and find the leftover chicken cacciatore disappeared? At least with those situations, you had a clue "who dunnit" even if knowing that will not resupply the gone objects. With crypto.... there's a high level of trust needed to believe that the petty cash box or the fridge is actually really ever stocked with something worth having.​

And where is all that stuff the crypto market maniuplators make off with? Somewhere along the way it has to turn into something both more tangible and more fungible, like cash. But it's getting trickier to process much illicitly obtained cash through banks these days. So... yeah, cash mules. WSJ just ran a piece today about cheaply bought transshipment of huge piles of cash from Heathrow to Dubai, taking advantage of the fact that Heathrow could but apparently has not or had not been scanning for cash in outgoing baggage destined for the cargo bays. They've been oriented to looking for bombs, not tax sheltered biz hauls or laundred drug money or plain heist bonanzas or just run of the mill halawa cash transfers. Dubai apparently hasn't minded if you arrived with truckloads of dough so long as you declared it. Yeah, it has been fine to say "Oh and I've got 2.8 million dollars in cash in my luggage." You know. Like for shopping while on vacay.

Billions in Dirty Money Flies Under the Radar at World’s Busiest Airports (paywall lifted)

That the crooks have apparently been stupid enough to make the return trips from these cash-toting jobs with a big pile of empty bags (!!) hadn't seemed to strike either baggage handlers or customs officials at Heathrow as an anomaly. This could all be changing now since the bust of a cash smuggling ring and the laying bare of such tactics a couple of years ago.

Still one wonders how thieves change any ill-gotten assets in crypto form into something less seemingly ephemeral yet still portable -- cash, gold, rare minerals?-- as a first step in ending up with a "legitimate" asset like real estate, or at least the ability to trade a fat pile of cash to someone anonymously, for a favor or some action that can't be acquired acceptably via a public transaction. Wouldn't it take a lot of trust to persuade someone to part with a big pile of cash for a supposedly equal amount of wealth in the form of crypto? Doesn't that get harder over time as more scams come to light?
 
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It's been a while since I've posted in this thread, but the latest news about Crypto is a reminder of just how dumb the entire thing is:

 
It's been a while since I've posted in this thread, but the latest news about Crypto is a reminder of just how dumb the entire thing is:



Yep, and that's just a tremor along the fault line.... As soon as Trump 2.0 and his crypto-lovin' bros manage to trash, circumvent or fail to deploy actual regulations of anything in the financial sector [certainly including the Consumer Finance Protection Board] they will promptly launch the "dump" phase to unload most of the last of their own crypto ahead of the rush for the Emergency Exit.

The resulting crash will make the 17th-century Tulip Mania collapse look like a white elephant sale at the annual church bazaar. I just hope it happens while crypto is not yet the glue of the global banking system, just 80% ponzi and 20% deep criminality like now.

At the moment, for the most part, a collapse of crypto would mirror the impact of that 1630s Dutch collapse, i.e. not that severe because mostly limited to the elites jostling to guestimate the top of the bubble -- and get their well-off neighbor to buy "the last of the really special tulips!" for half a herd of cows or whatever.

It's said to see the ever malleable Donald Trump hyping crypto now, because more of his followers are likely to try to get in. Sure some of them have money but a lot of them don't --and buying crypto instead of $60 Trump bibles deprives some of their peers from the grift-income they depend on at the edges of revival tours: They hawkTrump memorabilia and made-up souvenirs of the events.

"It's the economy, stupid" gonna come home to roost for some of those folk... along with the lesson about how once you elect a dictator he doesn't need your vote any more. That might be dawning on a few of the MAGAs already.
 
The current administration in Washington has floated the idea of a “crypto reserve.”

Molly White suggests how this further exposes what crypto is really about. The “anti-establishment” posturing was just that, a pose. And Trump’s support of a reserve is likely to benefit him personally, since he has his own crypto currency!


Donald Trump has signed an executive order creating both a “strategic bitcoin reserve” and a “digital asset stockpile”, turning the federal government into a permanent HODLer of the billions of dollars worth of crypto assets seized by law enforcement. The policy represents a striking departure from bitcoiners’ historical skepticism of government market intervention, and simultaneously fails to articulate how it serves any genuine national interest.
Perhaps most telling is the reaction beyond the crypto bubble: while bitcoin whales celebrate, the vast majority of Americans — who don't own crypto — have responded with a mix of bewilderment and outrage at what appears to be a government policy crafted solely to benefit a small group of wealthy speculators and crypto companies.
 
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