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Today’s Shooting (an ongoing topic to discuss)

A “gun safety” lesson for a 4-year-old ends with mom killing her.

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Woman shoots 4-year-old point-blank in the chest — claims she was teaching the child ‘firearm safety’

A four-year-old girl in Tennessee is dead after a woman who was watching her shot her point-blank in the chest., HuffPost reported. Breanna Gayle Devall Runions, 25, was charged with first-degree murder and aggravated child abuse. The deceased child's name is Evangaline Gunter. In an interview...
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In an interview with a local news outlet, the child’s parents, Adam and Josie Gunter, said their daughter was in temporary custody at a home which Runions shared with her girlfriend Christina Daniels and another 7-year-old girl.
According to a Tennessee Bureau of Investigation arrest warrant obtained by HuffPost, Runions told police that she had taken a 9 mm handgun out of its case, removed the magazine and called Evangaline over to “show her firearm safety.”
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I suppose the “gun safety” story could be a lie from mom who decided to just kill her kid, but either way… another child dead from a gunshot.
 
SouprMatt said:
A “gun safety” lesson for a 4-year-old ends with mom killing her.

deadstate.org

Woman shoots 4-year-old point-blank in the chest — claims she was teaching the child ‘firearm safety’

A four-year-old girl in Tennessee is dead after a woman who was watching her shot her point-blank in the chest., HuffPost reported. Breanna Gayle Devall Runions, 25, was charged with first-degree murder and aggravated child abuse. The deceased child's name is Evangaline Gunter. In an interview...
deadstate.org



I suppose the “gun safety” story could be a lie from mom who decided to just kill her kid, but either way… another child dead from a gunshot.
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“Look dear, this is a gun, it is very dangerous, you don’t point it at people like this, and don’t pull the trigger unless you need to kill them, like this…..oops.” 😳 To a 4 year old? My money is on she killed her child on purpose primarily. 🤔
 
There's going to be a reckoning one of these days. And it's going to be at the damn ballot box.

Guest Essay - I Put My Money on the Weeping Mothers at the Tennessee State Capitol (NY Times opinion, paywall lifted)

Ms. Joyce’s organization, the nonprofit Covenant Families Action Fund, is one of the reasons I had such high hopes for Tennessee’s special legislative session to address gun violence. To say I was wrong in harboring such hopes is also an understatement. During the special session, which cost Tennessee taxpayers $58,000 a day, Republicans passed no legislation that would have any significant effect on gun violence in the state. None at all.

Instead of passing the kinds of gun reforms Tennesseans overwhelmingly support, Republicans squabbled among themselves.
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Instead of passing a red-flag law to keep guns out of the hands of dangerous people, they expelled weeping mothers from committee rooms and House galleries, and they silenced Representative Justin Jones, who had just been re-elected after Republicans voted in April to expel him from the legislature.

Instead of passing a law preventing civilians from carrying weapons of war, they enacted a rule prohibiting spectators from carrying small signs into meetings. Before a Davidson County Chancery Court judge blocked the rule, gun-sense advocates took to writing messages on their own bodies or projecting them from phone screens.
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Through it all, spectators got a close look at how indifferent Republican legislators truly are to their constituents’ concerns. “This week, the Tennessee General Assembly gave me a lesson on the white patriarchy,” wrote Maryam Abolfazli, the founder of the nonprofit Rise & Shine Tennessee, in an opinion piece for Tennessee Lookout. “I had not understood the term in a meaningful way until this week, until I could feel it viscerally in the silencing of our dissent, in the ignoring of our presence and our silent and present plea for gun safety — in the day-in and day-out legislating despite our desperation.

“We were shushed, not just our voices, but our deepest, most human request: Please save my child.”
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Texas boy, 12, convicted for killing Sonic worker with AR-style rifle (WaPo, paywall lifted)

A 12-year-old Texas boy was recently found “the equivalent of guilty” in the murder of a Sonic restaurant worker with an AR-style rifle after the child’s uncle got into a fight with the employee, according to authorities.
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The boy was found “delinquent,” which is the equivalent to guilty in juvenile court, of a murder charge on Oct. 5. The boy, who is from Fort Worth but hasn’t been publicly identified because of his age, was convicted after nearly seven hours of deliberation, the sheriff’s office announced Sunday.
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The boy is scheduled to be sentenced on Thursday, the sheriff’s office said. A juvenile convicted of murder in Texas could face up to 40 years in prison, according to state attorneys.
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Apparently the kid's uncle got out of a car in the restaurant parking lot and decided to urinate there, was confronted by a Sonic employee and they got into a dispute about it, then the kid grabbed up an AR-style .22 out of the back seat and got out of the car too and shot the restaurant employee six times.

What a world. The gun-owning uncle has no responsibility in this? And a 12 year old kid is looking at 40 years in the slam because of Texas' cognitive dissonance re guns and justice... and probably doesn't help that the kid's uncle has an Hispanic surname.

We might as well be living in Beirut at the rate we see kids using weapons on people in the USA now... except over there not sure they bother jailing people any more for anything past dissing political opposition or engaging in political assassination. The solution for more common offenses in Lebanon appears to have evolved into committing an equivalent offense by settling the first one with more gunfire. Guess we're workin' on that part.
 
lizkat said:
Texas boy, 12, convicted for killing Sonic worker with AR-style rifle (WaPo, paywall lifted)







Apparently the kid's uncle got out of a car in the restaurant parking lot and decided to urinate there, was confronted by a Sonic employee and they got into a dispute about it, then the kid grabbed up an AR-style .22 out of the back seat and got out of the car too and shot the restaurant employee six times.

What a world. The gun-owning uncle has no responsibility in this? And a 12 year old kid is looking at 40 years in the slam because of Texas' cognitive dissonance re guns and justice... and probably doesn't help that the kid's uncle has an Hispanic surname.

We might as well be living in Beirut at the rate we see kids using weapons on people in the USA now... except over there not sure they bother jailing people any more for anything past dissing political opposition or engaging in political assassination. The solution for more common offenses in Lebanon appears to have evolved into committing an equivalent offense by settling the first one with more gunfire. Guess we're workin' on that part.
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The opposite of justice. Trying 12-year-olds as adults makes no sense. This is, first of all, to be blamed on America’s insane amount of unregulated guns. Next, on the guardian who allowed a child to play with one (side note - the uncle will be tried for murder too, so at least there’s that). Finally, on a justice system that is more about revenge for the victim than about rehabilitating offenders. What good does it do the victim’s family or our society to lock this child up past the age of 50?
 
At least 22 people have been killed by a gunman in Maine.

At least 22 people were killed in the shootings, according to a Lewiston police source.

Fifty to 60 people were wounded after a man fired at several locations, including a Lewiston bowling alley, said four law enforcement officials briefed on the matter.

The officials said the numbers were preliminary and could change.

There were no initial signs of terrorism.
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So, killing dozens of innocent people isn’t terrorism? Maybe if the mass-murderer was wearing a turban? Seriously, NBC?

www.nbcnews.com

At least 15 killed, up to 50 injured in shootings in Lewiston, Maine

News and updates on the deadly shootings in Lewiston, Maine.
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We can send billions to fight terrorists around the globe, but we can’t even fix our own laws to prevent 50,000 gun deaths a year at home. What a disgrace.
 
SouprMatt said:
At least 22 people have been killed by a gunman in Maine.



So, killing dozens of innocent people isn’t terrorism? Maybe if the mass-murderer was wearing a turban? Seriously, NBC?

www.nbcnews.com

At least 15 killed, up to 50 injured in shootings in Lewiston, Maine

News and updates on the deadly shootings in Lewiston, Maine.
www.nbcnews.com www.nbcnews.com

We can send billions to fight terrorists around the globe, but we can’t even fix our own laws to prevent 50,000 gun deaths a year at home. What a disgrace.
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To be fair, I had been listening to MSNBC during the 8 - 10 PM block, when the shooting pretty much took over coverage at 9PM. The thing about it not being terroristic was them quoting from law enforcement, who claimed they could find no ideological motivation. The entire 9 - 10 PM block was nothing but Alex Wagner asking various former law enforcement official to make guesses they admitted were guesses and / or state the obvious like the city being the second biggest city. Otherwise NBC was just desperately hoping for anything from local law enforcement, and was pretty much repeating what little they said when they said it.

It pretty much killed my being able to listen to MSNBC because they were basically saying nothing, because they had nothing. It was all repeating something already said, or guessing.

The most shocking thing which made me unable to stomach any of this, was that for 45 minutes they had no info. Then suddenly it was 15 killed, to 22 killed & 50+ injured. How the F does some asshole do that much damage in such a short amount of time? Only in America. With my mind reeling from the reporting on the carnage in Gaza against innocent people, to 'r'a picking a 45 endorsed zealot, to 45 himself in tears because he got caught trying slyly singling out an innocent court person, the shooting was too much for the evening. Where the 'F' are we going in this world?
 



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I have been a bit busy this morning, but just checked the news:, The police still haven’t caught him yet? Seriously?

Looking at his background and his twittering, this guy is the poster boy for the NRA’s “GOOD GUY WITH A GUN."

That leads to the question: Who stops the "good guy with a gun" when he goes bad?

And, as you pointed out, all the “mental health” promises from the right-wing politicians never, ever, ever pan out. They refuse to fund mental health resources, despite constantly blaming gun deaths on mental illness instead of the guns.
 
A few days ago, members of the Senate worked on a bill to make sure military members with mental illness could have unfettered access to firearms.

www.rollingstone.com

Senate Voted to Let Vets With Mental Issues Keep Guns Hours Before Maine Shooting

The Senate on Wednesday voted to adopt an amendment making it easier for veterans with mental disabilities to obtain guns.
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ROBERT CARD, AN Army reservist with a history of mental health issues, is suspected of killing at least 18 people at multiple locations in Maine on Wednesday.

Hours before the rampage, the Senate voted 53-45 to adopt an amendment making it easier for veterans with mental disabilities to get guns. The Department of Veteran Affairs is currently required to send the names of veterans who need assistance managing their benefits to the FBI’s National Instant Criminal Background Check System.

The amendment adopted on Wednesday, introduced by Sen. John Kennedy (R-La.), overturns this requirement. “My amendment would prevent government workers from unduly stripping veterans of their right to bear arms,” Kennedy said. “Every veteran who bravely serves our country has earned VA benefits, and it’s wrong for the government to punish veterans who get a helping hand to manage those resources.”

Five senators who caucus with Democrats — three Democrats and two Independents, all up for reelection in 2024 — voted with Republicans to adopt the amendment. “It is not right that a D.C. bureaucrat at VA could take away a veterans’ legal right to their firearms simply because they needed assistance managing their finances,” said Sen. Jon Tester (D-Mt.).
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Gun rights trump human rights.
 


And because this is another that has to be posted every time



Also why we will continue to be F'ed. Some people will create conditions why this can't be addressed



Yet these people will have no issue with any other rights like bodily, voting, or right to read a book encroached on.
 
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Thomas Veil said:
Twitter (I refuse to call it a letter) is letting Mike Johnson have it today, for his callous platitudes about “the human heart”.

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‘It’s The F**king Weapons’: Democrat Gives New GOP Speaker Blunt Fact-Check On Guns — HuffPost

Rep. Mike Johnson had made a wild claim about the true cause of mass shootings -- and his critics aren't buying it.
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Good start there, Poindexter.
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Considering he wants to separate aid for Ukraine from support for Israel, he might not have a human heart himself.

 
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