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Today’s Shooting (an ongoing topic to discuss)

Lockdowns to prevent a pandemic spreading are destroying freedom.

Lockdowns to avoid being gunned down by somebody exercising their 2nd-amendment rights? I guess they’re ok. Gotta protect those gun rights, so I hope everybody has enough toilet paper.
 
Lockdowns to prevent a pandemic spreading are destroying freedom.

Lockdowns to avoid being gunned down by somebody exercising their 2nd-amendment rights? I guess they’re ok. Gotta protect those gun rights, so I hope everybody has enough toilet paper.

There was a time I had thought that the Sandy Hook school shooting of kids under the age of 7 would finally put paid to the gun lobby's logic-without-premise arguments for the right to bear arms. Stuff like "it's not guns, it's the perpetrator, like someone could kill kindergarten kids with lengths of clothesline if they wanted to do it." The country did seem to take a deep breath when that particular event took place.

Of course that was before conspiracy theorists actually proposed that that shooting was a hoax. That opened a new chapter on how messed up this country really is. Sometime around then is probably when I began to feel both despair and real anger about this bogus "right" to bear arms that no one needs to carry unless they are or mean to be deliberately hunting PEOPLE.

I'm grateful for the organizational efforts of the so many Americans--many of them survivors of slaughtered kinfolk-- who have managed to get some more effective controls on both illegal and legal weapons purchases in the USA. There's still a long way to go in terms of turning lawmakers around from a gun-lobby-funded and America-harming insistence on the manufactured "right" of civilians to own military grade weapons.
 
Lewiston shooting suspect Robert Card was found dead Friday evening, state Public Safety Commissioner Michael Sauschuck told reporters. Here are the latest developments:
  • Card died from an apparent self-inflicted gunshot wound: Law enforcement found Card's body around 7:45 p.m. ET, Sauschuck said at a news conference Friday night, adding that he died from an a self-inflicted gunshot wound. His body was found near the Androscoggin River in the Lisbon Falls area, some 10 miles from Lewiston, where the Wednesday night shooting rampage unfolded.
  • A 48-hour manhunt: Law enforcement had been conducting an intensive manhunt for Card following the Wednesday evening shootings. The search prompted shelter-in-place orders and the shutdown of schools and businesses as teams searched the area.
  • About the attack: Wednesday's mass shooting at a bowling alley and restaurant in Lewiston left 18 people dead and another 13 injured. The attack was the deadliest US mass shooting since last year’s massacre at a school in Uvalde, Texas. Read more about the lives of the victims.
 
Ron DeSantis opposes people’s guns being taken away based on anonymous tips called into the police.

He SUPPORTS involuntary commitment to a mental hospital based on anonymous tips though? Freedom to buy guns trumps freedom from incarceration??? 🤔

PS - Ronda thinks he is losing in primary polls because of the politicized left-wing prosecutions of Trump. 😂😂👍🏼
 
Yet another shooting in the news today…


  • The suspect in the University of Nevada, Las Vegas, shooting that killed at least three people is a man in his 60s, three law enforcement sources familiar with the investigation tell NBC News. There was no immediate information about a motive.
  • At least three people were killed, police said. A fourth person is in critical condition at a hospital.
  • Police said the suspect has been located and is dead.
 
Kevin Monahan, 66, took the stand in his own defense to end testimony in his second-degree murder trial. He is charged in the death of Kaylin Gillis, who was riding in a caravan of two cars and a motorcycle that pulled into his driveway while looking for another person’s house on a Saturday night last April.…
Monahan told jurors he believed his home in rural Hebron, about 40 miles north of Albany, was “under siege” and facing an “invasion” when the caravan pulled up his long, winding driveway. He came out with a shotgun to try to scare the group away while his wife hid in a closet.
Monahan said he then tripped over nails protruding from his deck while wearing flip flops. He lost his balance and accidentally caused his shotgun to fire at the Ford Explorer carrying Gillis, her boyfriend and two other young friends.

You know, it’s possible to take this guy at his word that all this happened just the way he says it did, that he never intended to fire at anyone, while wondering: what the hell makes someone so fricking paranoid that his mind immediately concludes that it’s some kind of invasion?

Though I think he bears responsibility for his own stupidity, I also blame the NRA, Fox News, and all the Republicans who for political reasons take advantage of that stupidity by always pushing fear and paranoia.

New York man on trial in death of woman whose friends pulled into wrong driveway says 'my soul is dead'
 
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You know, it’s possible to take this guy at his word that all this happened just the way he says it did, that he never intended to fire at anyone, while wondering: what the hell makes someone so fricking paranoid that his mind immediately concludes that it’s some kind of invasion?

Though I think he bears responsibility for his own stupidity, I also blame the NRA, Fox News, and all the Republicans who for political reasons take advantage of that stupidity by always pushing fear and paranoia.

New York man on trial in death of woman whose friends pulled into wrong driveway says 'my soul is dead'
I don’t disagree with your societal commentary. However… What a 🐂💩 story. He intentionally fired the first shot just as a warning, but the second was an oopsie? 🤥
 
You know, it’s possible to take this guy at his word that all this happened just the way he says it did, that he never intended to fire at anyone, while wondering: what the hell makes someone so fricking paranoid that his mind immediately concludes that it’s some kind of invasion?

Though I think he bears responsibility for his own stupidity, I also blame the NRA, Fox News, and all the Republicans who for political reasons take advantage of that stupidity by always pushing fear and paranoia.

New York man on trial in death of woman whose friends pulled into wrong driveway says 'my soul is dead'
It's fascinating how the personal responibilitah!!! folk suddenly deny responsibility when it's about themselves.
He's trying to reduce his sentence by casting doubt on homicidal intent, but this is why gun "freedom" advocacy cannot be taken seriously.
If someone dies because you are an irresponsible gun owner, you expect consequences, so intent shouldn't even matter much...
 
You know, it’s possible to take this guy at his word that all this happened just the way he says it did, that he never intended to fire at anyone, while wondering: what the hell makes someone so fricking paranoid that his mind immediately concludes that it’s some kind of invasion?

Though I think he bears responsibility for his own stupidity, I also blame the NRA, Fox News, and all the Republicans who for political reasons take advantage of that stupidity by always pushing fear and paranoia.

New York man on trial in death of woman whose friends pulled into wrong driveway says 'my soul is dead'
The jury didn’t buy the “oops” defense.

Man Found Guilty of Murder in Driveway Shooting
Prosecutors also used body-cam footage and 911 calls to show that Mr. Monahan and his wife had initially lied to authorities, telling a police officer who arrived shortly after the shooting that they had had no visitors that night. Mr. Monahan also feigned confusion about why neighbors had heard gunshots, Mr. Morris said, suggesting that hunters were prowling the woods behind his house, after dark.

“It’s a total farce,” he said.

Mr. Monahan was also found guilty of reckless endangerment and tampering with evidence, related, in part, to his efforts to clean the shotgun after the shooting.
Not sure why the defense lawyer put him on the stand when his past actions already showed he lied and attempted to destroy evidence. Should have tried to get a plea deal for a lesser sentence. Maybe the lawyer assumed the jury would have some “2nd-amendment fanatics” on it?
 
Off-duty police officers working security in a Texas megachurch shot and killed a woman who had entered the church with a child in tow and had started firing a long gun inside the church. The child was in critical condition at a Houston hospital.

 
Off-duty police officers working security in a Texas megachurch shot and killed a woman who had entered the church with a child in tow and had started firing a long gun inside the church. The child was in critical condition at a Houston hospital.

I'm still stunned every time these people miss the F'N obvious intentionally.

“She had a long gun, and it could have been a lot worse,” Finner said at the news conference.

Osteen said the shooting could have been much worse if it had happened during the larger 11 a.m. service.

“We’re devastated,” he said, adding he would pray for the victims and their families.

It's worse because someone had access to a gun period, that we've sadly "normalized" as a thing that can happen anywhere in the States.

Texas Gov. Greg Abbott said “our hearts are with those impacted by today’s tragic shooting and the entire Lakewood Church community in Houston. Places of worship are sacred.”

I'm going go "sacrilegious" here for a second... Yes "places of worship" are sacred. You know where else should be sacred? Anywhere I can NOT get shot, because someone's having "issues" of any kind.

And of course a kid is hurt, because that's our country now. Why the F' can we not "pray" to handle this gun issue, so I don't have to add "getting shot" as one of the many random things that can happen while one is living their lives?
 
I'm still stunned every time these people miss the F'N obvious intentionally.



It's worse because someone had access to a gun period, that we've sadly "normalized" as a thing that can happen anywhere in the States.



I'm going go "sacrilegious" here for a second... Yes "places of worship" are sacred. You know where else should be sacred? Anywhere I can NOT get shot, because someone's having "issues" of any kind.

And of course a kid is hurt, because that's our country now. Why the F' can we not "pray" to handle this gun issue, so I don't have to add "getting shot" as one of the many random things that can happen while one is living their lives?
How about Olsteen preaches some sermons about turning swords into ploughshares? Encourage the faithful to stop it with the guns already! But we all know that will never happen, because that would mean a lot of them would leave for another church that preaches what they want to hear, not what is actually GOOD.
 
How about Olsteen preaches some sermons about turning swords into ploughshares? Encourage the faithful to stop it with the guns already! But we all know that will never happen, because that would mean a lot of them would leave for another church that preaches what they want to hear, not what is actually GOOD.


Yah, I'm still trying to get used to the idea that someone thinks to bring a gun into a place of worship, whether to commit mayhem or in anticipation that someone else will do that. Time was when you were wrestling with some problem and ended up in a house of worship, you wanted either to pray or seek religious counsel.

If I could get past that mental block maybe I could move on to wondering why the USA still puts the right to bear arms over the right not to fear that oneself, one's family or friends will be shot at for no reason on the street, in a supermarket, classroom or church. We have ten times more wrongful deaths by gunfire every year than we suffered at the hands of a bunch of terrorists in 2001. Since and as a result of that set pf September 11 incidents, we have parted ways with a lot of civil liberties "because terrorism". Yet our highest court so far still insists on maintaining a tenuously construed right to possess guns as individuals --despite the Constitution's reference to "well organized militias" -- and thus a right to end up slaying ourselves or each other over anything from road rage through lost jobs, broken love affairs, teen angst, delusional thinking, carelessness, mistaken identity... For the life of me I can't get to where this makes sense.
 
Yah, I'm still trying to get used to the idea that someone thinks to bring a gun into a place of worship, whether to commit mayhem or in anticipation that someone else will do that. Time was when you were wrestling with some problem and ended up in a house of worship, you wanted either to pray or seek religious counsel.

If I could get past that mental block maybe I could move on to wondering why the USA still puts the right to bear arms over the right not to fear that oneself, one's family or friends will be shot at for no reason on the street, in a supermarket, classroom or church. We have ten times more wrongful deaths by gunfire every year than we suffered at the hands of a bunch of terrorists in 2001. Since and as a result of that set pf September 11 incidents, we have parted ways with a lot of civil liberties "because terrorism". Yet our highest court so far still insists on maintaining a tenuously construed right to possess guns as individuals --despite the Constitution's reference to "well organized militias" -- and thus a right to end up slaying ourselves or each other over anything from road rage through lost jobs, broken love affairs, teen angst, delusional thinking, carelessness, mistaken identity... For the life of me I can't get to where this makes sense.
Polls show only about 1/3 of people have this level of support for ”gun rights,” and I’m guessing a decent number of those are influenced heavily by peer pressure with right-wing media reinforcement. ”Our“ national support for guns over kids is due to a broken political system, not popular opinion.
 
A mass shooting took place at the Super Bowl celebration in Kansas City.


Children’s Mercy Hospital said it was treating 12 people who were injured in the shooting — 11 children and one parent who would not leave their child. Nine of the children sustained gunshot wounds, said a hospital spokeswoman, Stephanie Meyer

There is no bottom, and until we vote out more Republicans, nothing will be done about the senseless killing, even of children. The shooters are evil, but so are those defending “gun rights.”

PS - There were over 800 law enforcement officers at the parade. Good guys with guns saving the day, my ass.
 
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